Gibbs + Montgomery = REDUNDANT

[rustyhilger]

It's time we come to the realization that thse are not complimentary backs. They are both COMPLETE backs who can do whatever is asked of them. Exact same skill sets. Just slightly different variations on the "superstar RB" theme.

Instead of spending a first round pick and a huge salary on them, respectively, we could have had a true #2 WR and a an extra CB #2 to ease Arnold's transition. And a #2 OT for depth.

Having both is a luxury only a team with no weaknesses can afford. They are essentially the same back, stop pretending they're not. Total waste of resources.

/end of rant

[stuckincheeseland]

Sept 15, 2024 13:56:20 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

It's time we come to the realization that thse are not complimentary backs. They are both COMPLETE backs who can do whatever is asked of them. Exact same skill sets. Just slightly different variations on the "superstar RB" theme.

Instead of spending a first round pick and a huge salary on them, respectively, we could have had a true #2 WR and a an extra CB #2 to ease Arnold's transition. And a #2 OT for depth.

Having both is a luxury only a team with no weaknesses can afford. They are essentially the same back, stop pretending they're not. Total waste of resources.

/end of rant

keep them both and accept the results

[badnews3123]

Cute effort.

[icouldblion]

Lol, yeah, this loss was due to lack of depth as a result of drafting Gibbs. Not because of poor QB decisions, a game plan that included twice as many passing plays as running plays, bad interceptions and less than 6 yds per attempt.

[goldenlions]

Nothing to see here. Just bs from someone who is fatalistic.

I am concerned by Johnson’s playcalling. And Goff being fat and sassy with his contract as he doesn’t seem to have that killer instinct anymore. Would suck to see the defense make strides but the supposed best offense in the league falter and regress.

A win next week will help but I expected the team to be 4-0 to start. Not losing at home to a depleted TB team.

[rustyhilger]

They're still redundant.

[goldenlions]

I don't see Montgomery as a pass catching receiver the way Gibbs is....but they are the same I guess.

I am no mathematician, but that equation makes no sense.  LOL

[Blaming Brad]

Sept 16, 2024 6:27:20 GMT -6 goldenlions said:

I am no mathematician, but that equation makes no sense.  LOL

Montgomery divided by Gibbs equals Monty²

[Vic]

Sept 16, 2024 5:30:36 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

They're still redundant.

Having two good backs is redundant, that is the whole point. You always have a fresh back or production due to injury. Why the negative spin on a strength?

[Blaming Brad]

Sept 16, 2024 18:49:06 GMT -6 Vic said:

Sept 16, 2024 5:30:36 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

They're still redundant.

Having two good backs is redundant, that is the whole point. You always have a fresh back or production due to injury. Why the negative spin on a strength?

You're really asking that Vic?

[Vic]

I guess I'm holding out hope that Rusty isn't trying to be a troll

[goldenlions]

Sept 17, 2024 6:54:26 GMT -6 Vic said:

I guess I'm holding out hope that Rusty isn't trying to be a troll

Well since this was his first post since June, he really doesn't have much to contribute other than starting troll posts.

[rustyhilger]

Sept 17, 2024 6:54:26 GMT -6 Vic said:

I guess I'm holding out hope that Rusty isn't trying to be a troll

They're still redundant. Troll or no troll.

[rustyhilger]

Sept 16, 2024 6:27:20 GMT -6 goldenlions said:

I don't see Montgomery as a pass catching receiver the way Gibbs is....but they are the same I guess.

I am no mathematician, but that equation makes no sense.  LOL

I think he's a better receiver than Gibbs is a blocker. Although he is at least a "willing" blocker I guess (holding out hope).

The phrase "Catch passing receiver" is also redundant, btw. Just sayin.

[Felix]

Monty is more physical and Gibbs has more finesse...they are not the same...however they do overlap in some aspects, so I could see where an uneducated sports fan may not be able to separate or see a distinction.

[goldenlions]

yeah 5'9" 200 is slightly different than 5'11" 225

Sept 19, 2024 10:43:23 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

The phrase "Catch passing receiver" is also redundant

Just like most of your posts

[rustyhilger]

Sept 19, 2024 10:59:38 GMT -6 Felix said:

Monty is more physical and Gibbs has more finesse...they are not the same...however they do overlap in some aspects, so I could see where an uneducated sports fan may not be able to separate or see a distinction.

I mean, Gibbs might be ever-so-slightky more finesse and Monty ever-so-slightly more North/South but the point is it's splitting hairs. The more you watch them, the more impressive each looks in both phases, and the more one realizes how negligible their differences are in the grander scheme.



They're both all-purpose backs.
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[Blaming Brad]

While the post makes no sense, I do agree with the notion that it's generally not a good idea to spend high draft capital on low value positions. When they took Gibbs that high, I didn't like it, but I did say he has to be REALLY GOOD for it to pay off. So far he seems to be trending that way. And on top of that if you look at the players selected after him in the first round that they might have taken, none of them so far have been world-beaters. And at least they traded down to that spot and probably wouldn't have LaPorta if not for that trade down.

[Blaming Brad]

Sept 19, 2024 11:45:12 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

I mean, Gibbs might be ever-so-slightky more finesse and Monty ever-so-slightly more North/South but the point is it's splitting hairs. The more you watch them, the more impressive each looks in both phases, and the more one realizes how negligible their differences are in the grander scheme.



They're both all-purpose backs.

Aren't you the guy that says running backs inevitably get hurt? That's actually one of the few things you're right about. Montgomery and Gibbs will surely miss time.

[goldenlions]

Sept 19, 2024 21:11:47 GMT -6 Blaming Brad said:

Montgomery and Gibbs will surely miss time.

And they both did last year (albeit, just a short amount of time)

[Vic]

Sept 19, 2024 11:46:21 GMT -6 Blaming Brad said:

While the post makes no sense, I do agree with the notion that it's generally not a good idea to spend high draft capital on low value positions. When they took Gibbs that high, I didn't like it, but I did say he has to be REALLY GOOD for it to pay off. So far he seems to be trending that way. And on top of that if you look at the players selected after him in the first round that they might have taken, none of them so far have been world-beaters. And at least they traded down to that spot and probably wouldn't have LaPorta if not for that trade down.

Goff has been pretty solid overall, but he does not have top 5 arm talent, so you need to build an offense a certain way. It's a long season and we will be glad we have both these guys assuming BJ starts running ball and the OL opens some holes.

[Blaming Brad]

🤔

When Seattle safety Rayshawn Jenkins was asked about Detroit's running back duo of David Montgomery and Jahmyr Gibbs, Jenkins said the difficult thing as a defender is playing two very different styles. When Montgomery is in the game, he runs downhill and defenders really have to be physical with him and bring their pads because of his ability to break tackles.

With Gibbs, Jenkins said it's all about playing angles and running to the outside because of Gibbs' speed. He said defenders know what style of run is coming based on which Detroit back is in the game.

This does bring up something I've thought about though. Whey don't they ever put them in the backfield together?

[badnews3123]

Sept 26, 2024 9:01:08 GMT -6 Blaming Brad said:

🤔

When Seattle safety Rayshawn Jenkins was asked about Detroit's running back duo of David Montgomery and Jahmyr Gibbs, Jenkins said the difficult thing as a defender is playing two very different styles. When Montgomery is in the game, he runs downhill and defenders really have to be physical with him and bring their pads because of his ability to break tackles.

With Gibbs, Jenkins said it's all about playing angles and running to the outside because of Gibbs' speed. He said defenders know what style of run is coming based on which Detroit back is in the game.

This does bring up something I've thought about though. Whey don't they ever put them in the backfield together?

It is weird with all the stuff we’ve seen from Johnson he hasn’t done anything with that.

[Vic]

I thought I saw Gibbs back there with Monty, but thay motioned Gibbs out in a passing situation.

[TechLion]

Sept 19, 2024 10:59:38 GMT -6 Felix said:

Monty is more physical and Gibbs has more finesse...they are not the same...however they do overlap in some aspects, so I could see where an uneducated sports fan may not be able to separate or see a distinction.

Exactly!


Both backs are fast, quick, powerful and can make defenses miss but Montgomery is a much more powerful and is hard to bring down while Gibbs is lighting quick and can break away for the long runs. They definitely compliment each other. It is very possible that one of them will have to go because of cap implications in the future.