It's amazing how naive you are. Believe it or not I probably respect your opinion more than anyone else on here when it comes to X & O stuff, but you wear the Honolulu Blue colored glasses. A truly good team would have put this one away and the bad calls at the end would have been irrelevant. The Lions are an okay team but not at that level. Even when the Lions were up 13-0 I knew they had no chance. When it was 13-10 at the half it was over. Stafford has no ability to put a game away when it's needed. He needs everything to fall into place perfectly which never happens.
Both teams had mistake and breaks. GB dropped a wide open TD pass. They had a turn over on the 1 yard line about to score a TD. Both teams gave up sacks. Yeah the Lions had the 12 man in the field etc.but the refs were the game changer with the calls and no calls to benefit the Packers.
Patricia needs to call them out! You have to. If the Likns want to win this division they need to bring some attention to the next match up at home with GB and get some calls out way!
That makes it sound even worse. Lions probably should have been blown out based on what you're saying.
Both teams had mistake and breaks. GB dropped a wide open TD pass. They had a turn over on the 1 yard line about to score a TD. Both teams gave up sacks. Yeah the Lions had the 12 man in the field etc.but the refs were the game changer with the calls and no calls to benefit the Packers.
Patricia needs to call them out! You have to. If the Likns want to win this division they need to bring some attention to the next match up at home with GB and get some calls out way!
That makes it sound even worse. Lions probably should have been blown out based on what you're saying.
Refs dont make that call on Flowers, Lions could have won. Period...lions had no chance at all because of the refs
It’s amazing how predictable you are. Score on every possession so that terrible reffing doesn’t have an effect on the game.
It's amazing how naive you are. Believe it or not I probably respect your opinion more than anyone else on here when it comes to X & O stuff, but you wear the Honolulu Blue colored glasses. A truly good team would have put this one away and the bad calls at the end would have been irrelevant. The Lions are an okay team but not at that level. Even when the Lions were up 13-0 I knew they had no chance. When it was 13-10 at the half it was over. Stafford has no ability to put a game away when it's needed. He needs everything to fall into place perfectly which never happens.
It was 22-13 and they called a bogus flag. It was 22-16 they didn’t throw the flag that took opportunity to put it away. 22-20 they throw a bogus flag that eliminates any chance of Lions getting ball back. Please deny of this.
Those are calls that massively impact games. And that’s ignoring a couple other questionable ones. Find me an example of a good team playing through that. You won’t, you have no desire to look either way. I get it, it’s easy to hedge. Want the Lions to win, but always play the “I never really bought in” so you can ride that wave when they lose and play the “well it’s good they won, but...” when they win. Makes being a fan easy.
As for me, find me the a season before this year I bought into this team being more than 8-8 or 9-7 at best. I’ve been critical of both Quinn and Patricia. Can go right back to week 1. But this is a good football team and they got fucking hosed tonight.
Period...lions had no chance at all because of the refs
Refs didn't help but Lions had PLENTY of chances to put this game away and couldn't. It was just like every other game this year, including the 2 games they won (which were gifts) and the one they tied. This team has no ability to put a game away. But keep blaming the officiating if it makes you feel better.
Both teams had mistake and breaks. GB dropped a wide open TD pass. They had a turn over on the 1 yard line about to score a TD. Both teams gave up sacks. Yeah the Lions had the 12 man in the field etc.but the refs were the game changer with the calls and no calls to benefit the Packers.
Patricia needs to call them out! You have to. If the Likns want to win this division they need to bring some attention to the next match up at home with GB and get some calls out way!
That makes it sound even worse. Lions probably should have been blown out based on what you're saying.
GB scored on the drive they dropped the TD. There as no change in points from that.
I want to believe in this team, I really do, they are better than what we have seen recently. I just can't right now, they are fight til the end which is great to see, but they just can't end games like they should be. They should be 5-0 right now, but just can't do it.
It was 22-13 and they called a bogus flag. It was 22-16 they didn’t throw the flag that took opportunity to put it away. 22-20 they throw a bogus flag that eliminates any chance of Lions getting ball back. Please deny of this.
Those are calls that massively impact games. And that’s ignoring a couple other questionable ones. Find me an example of a good team playing through that. You won’t, you have no desire to look either way. I get it, it’s easy to hedge. Want the Lions to win, but always play the “I never really bought in” so you can ride that wave when they lose and play the “well it’s good they won, but...” when they win. Makes being a fan easy.
As for me, find me the a season before this year I bought into this team being more than 8-8 or 9-7 at best. I’ve been critical of both Quinn and Patricia. Can go right back to week 1. But this is a good football team and they got fucking hosed tonight.
Again, sure they got hosed. My point is just that if they were a truly great team it wouldn't have come to those controversial calls at the end. They're an okay team, but not a great team. Accept it. So many opportunities to put that game away and they couldn't do it. And let's not forget that interception was lucky as hell. I think most people agreed this was an 8-8 level team headed into the season and they are certainly showing that is about what they are. In the words of Dennis Green, they are who we thought they were.
Yeah, not like they had Rodgers sacked for a 4th and 20 with a 9 point lead only to have a bad call give Pack first down. Or have Jones get interfered with on ensuing drive that would have put them in FG range. Or make another 3rd down stop that would have at least given them shot to win game, before another bad call.
I mean criticize them for not punching in one of those in first half(though Hock one is questionable too), but down stretch they were in position to win and made plays...but had had bad calls hinder them. Let’s not pretend they just tanked it.
It was 22-13 when GB scored a TD(he didn’t actually score by the way on the play)instead of a FG because of a bogus call. That’s a 4 point swing. GB got the ball back for final drive instead of it being in FG range for Lions because refs decided a DB blocking Jones arms before the ball was there want PI. Never mind Lions not even getting an opportunity to win game after another bad call gave Packers chip shot FG because of bogus call.
I know you think you’re being super cool football guy by saying make plays and play through it. That’s bullshit, those calls had a drastic impact on a 1 point game. You can’t “play through” things you don’t know will happen.
I'm really not, I am a hardcore Lions fan and have been since 1990. Lions were the better team tonight and should have won(just like in AZ and against KC). Yes the refs probably cost the Lions the game, without doubt. But why does it seem like this team is always in this position? Is it a conspiracy, no one team can have this much bad luck. I am just trying to see what they could/should have done to win this game. I have been burnt too many times expecting things out of this team for almost 30 yrs, so I apologize for being a pessimist, it is what they molded me into.
It defies all the laws of physics at this point. In a world of ebbs and flows, the Lions are forever ebbed. It's defies any explanation, but I will say the REFS have been told the NFL doesn't like DEtroit. That much is obvious. A Lions Superbowl might make ratings dip a percentage point, which would mean millions. So it's all factored out. If the teams they think net the most profit, those teams get the calls. It's that simple. This Lions team played their hearts out all year. It's the FIRST TIME IN YEARS, maybe a decades that I could say this team is playing HARD. They didn't deserve the KC fumble recovery TD and the shit load of bad calls throughout the year and then some. It's simple mathematics and it's all about the Benjamins. The Saints got hosed against LA, it's all about markets now. It's the WWE
I'm really not, I am a hardcore Lions fan and have been since 1990. Lions were the better team tonight and should have won(just like in AZ and against KC). Yes the refs probably cost the Lions the game, without doubt. But why does it seem like this team is always in this position? Is it a conspiracy, no one team can have this much bad luck. I am just trying to see what they could/should have done to win this game. I have been burnt too many times expecting things out of this team for almost 30 yrs, so I apologize for being a pessimist, it is what they molded me into.
It defies all the laws of physics at this point. In a world of ebbs and flows, the Lions are forever ebbed. It's defies any explanation, but I will say the REFS have been told the NFL doesn't like DEtroit. That much is obvious. A Lions Superbowl might make ratings dip a percentage point, which would mean millions. So it's all factored out. If the teams they think net the most profit, those teams get the calls. It's that simple. This Lions team played their hearts out all year. It's the FIRST TIME IN YEARS, maybe a decades that I could say this team is playing HARD. They didn't deserve the KC fumble recovery TD and the shit load of bad calls throughout the year and then some. It's simple mathematics and it's all about the Benjamins. The Saints got hosed against LA, it's all about markets now. It's the WWE
Believe me, I get it. Lions got hosed. I just think the fans are leaning on it too much when there were so many other blown opportunities that would have put them in a position to where blown calls on the final drive wouldn’t have mattered. I guess I’m more in line with Tony Dungy’s thinking in the article you posted:
Tony Dungy tweeted: “I’m not saying officials cost Lions the game. I’m saying three wrong calls and one obvious missed call in one half is not acceptable. Doesn’t matter who wins the game.”
Post by badnews3123 on Oct 15, 2019 10:13:05 GMT -6
Games are decided by thin margins, we’ve gone over this so having multiple bad calls in the 4th quarter of a game is going to have a massive impact on the game.
Yes, Lions need to do a better job in red zone, but one of those FG’s becoming a TD also has a ripple effect and we have no idea how game plays out from that point. Reality is, Lions played well enough to win and still made plays down the stretch and Packers were given extra life that gave them the opportunity to win the game, while life was also taken away from Lions. That can’t happen.
Post by badnews3123 on Oct 15, 2019 10:17:30 GMT -6
And honestly, the refs do suck, but it’s on the NFL. There’s so many rules and so much grey area in some of them it’s causing the refs to over-officiate.
Believe me, I get it. Lions got hosed. I just think the fans are leaning on it too much when there were so many other blown opportunities that would have put them in a position to where blown calls on the final drive wouldn’t have mattered. I guess I’m more in line with Tony Dungy’s thinking in the article you posted:
Tony Dungy tweeted: “I’m not saying officials cost Lions the game. I’m saying three wrong calls and one obvious missed call in one half is not acceptable. Doesn’t matter who wins the game.”
I am with you, the Lions had ample chances to take over the game, but that's assuming you don't respect the Packers and what they do. They are a good defense, I just think their offense was given some home cookin' favorable call to keep them in the game and let them have the opportunity to win the game.
If you can't see why people are upset, shame on you. This is about the refs taking over a game and making their choices the deciding factor in a game, and that is just plain, flat out wrong!