Looking to the 2020 Draft....2019 a disappointment already

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It would appear that a Pass Rushing DE is sorely needed, Upgrades on the OL (Perennial) need, another RB as Kerryon appears to be paper mache. Also DB is a concern..Lets face it..We have pretty much the worst defense in the NFL. So I think the party is over for 2019..Sad to say..6-9-1 at best

[badnews3123]

Didn’t even list the biggest need on Defense..... LB’s.

Not that I think they’ll address it because they’re enamored with Davis’ leadership and traits, despite his shit play. They extended Jones, I’m sure because he’s”versatile”, but good at nothing. Tavai has been ok, but they need major help.

Also, no matter how much talent you add, the scheme and philosophy need adjusting.

[Vic]

Let me just copy and paste this here from the old board, so now we are rebuilding Quinn's first rebuild?



You can only replace so many players in one given year. Sure Quinn has his misses in the draft but most of his draft picks are contributing. I understand not upgrading RB or DL when you have to fill holes on OL LB and secondary. If you think about what has hurt the Lions it's been the old guys getting injured and underperformance from guys like Ebron and young TE s learning on the job. In fact the young guys like Davis, Reeves Maybin, and second year guys have filled in admirably.

This is a rebuild!

Vic Turner, Nov 3, 2017


This roster will be turned over by next season from when Quinn took over with exception of a small groups of players.

The impact players are FA signings and young players drafted by Quinn.

Slay, Stafford may be the only ones left by this time next season.

OL: rebuilt
Lb: rebuilt
DL: Ngata and Ansah? Gone next season...rebuild
TE: I don't expect Ebron back...rebuilding this position. Have a bunch of young guys

If you are replacing this many players you are going to lack depth. This team has been in a rebuild phase since Quinn came here. Just because the team has QB does t mean they are not rebuilding.

Vic Turner, Oct 23, 2017

What about all the FA's?

Quinn has aggressively turned this roster over. There is a strong core of young players that was not there when Mayhew has this team. For the first time I can remember they are relying on a lot of young players.

I would add Mayben Reeves and Hyder when healthy. That is 9 players, almost have the team is second year or rookies that are playing a lot of time. If that isn't a "Core" of young players I don't know what it. Of course the Tates, Staffords ETC. are the nucleus. But your acting like the young players are not a factor....they are!!!!

We are relying on this young "Core" of players to carry a big load. We are in a rebuild phase, they are turning the roster over and expect even more Millhew guys gone next season.



Vic Turner, Oct 9, 2017








I have been going on for a while now about the rebuild. Can we all agree we are in a rebuild phase?




What can we say about the team moving forward?

OL...not sure why all the hype. A rookie OC will take some time to make a difference and the Right side of the OL is MEH. Really like the left side and hope the rookie is the best thing since Kevin Glover and not Raiola! I say we will see that right side blown up after this season and yet more of a rebuild here.

RB: See above. Again its hype until the OL can open some holes

TE: Hate to say it, Ebron was a pain in the ass but we may not see the production from that position this season like we did last year. We have some young guys and lets hope they develop


DL .... Oh boy, hot mess

LB ...Oh boy, hot mess

(I wish they drafted some more help here versus trading those pics)

Secondary...should be ok, like the safety they drafted

REALLY concerned abut the front 7, also a scheme change there is a rebuild going on here for sure.

Vic Turner, May 7, 2018

[stuckincheeseland]

I don't think the draft will fix what ails the defense, the problems are schematic

[26point2]

We need to draft a Watt or a Bosa.

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Quite evident that a (4) man rush with present company is nowhere near enough. Many predicted that the DL was the strength of this Defense. I think we can dispel that notion. Actually the DL is unable to generate enough of a Pass Rush to be effective at all. Prescott had enough time to shower and brush his teeth quite a few times today. Kind of a Sad thing to watch. Well some good looking Draft picks on the horizon...Appears 3-12-1 not out of reach. If Miami can win 4 games...Hallelujah.

[goldenlions]

Even if the Lions go 3-12-1, they are likely to get the 9 or 10th overall pick.

The AFC has some really shitty teams this year.

[badnews3123]

They’re 10 right now, if they lose out, which they won’t, they’d be fairly high. I think some of those bad AFC teams are gonna end up beating each other.

[Blaming Brad]

Miami, Cincy, Giants, Washington will all win 3 games or less so 5 is probably best scenario. But I do think the Lions will win 2-3 more games.

[badnews3123]

Giants could win 4 or 5, they still have Chicago, Washington and Miami.

Just don’t see Lions losing out though. Even if they start Driskel the rest of the way, I’d say they win 5.

Lions will likely be in 10-15 range.

[goldenlions]

I think the Lions could easily win the next 3 games which would definitely keep them in the 10-15 range.

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I think they might beat Washington....but after that...Tampa Bay, depends which Tampa Bay team shows up. Denver starting to play much better. 4-11-1 my best guess

[goldenlions]

You think they can't beat the Bears on T-day?

[badnews3123]

This all assuming Stafford is shut down for the season, which I’d be surprised if it happens. I think we could see him back for Thanksgiving. And if that’s the case, I think they’ll finish with 6-7 wins at worst.

[Blaming Brad]

With or without Stafford, 6 wins AT BEST. No excuse to lose to Washington no matter who is QB. After that they might win 2 of Chicago, Denver or Tampa. A wild card could be if GB has nothing to play for in week 17 but most likely they will.

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Nov 19, 2019 23:27:13 GMT -6 goldenlions said:

You think they can't beat the Bears on T-day?

If Stafford Plays...Yes, but the Bears have a good defense and Trubisky kind of owns the Lions D...might suck against everybody else

[badnews3123]

Lions at 7 now.

[goldenlions]

Don't worry the Lions will bring back Stafford and win a couple pointless games against the Bucs and Broncos and they will be picking 13.

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3-12-1 is a real possibility now. Looking forward to the draft...once again

[Felix]

Nov 24, 2019 20:31:04 GMT -6 badnews3123 said:

Lions at 7 now.

just a quick look...cant see getting higher than 4 with 5 or 6 most likely

[Blaming Brad]

I think 7-8 pick is most likely. I think Miami, Giants, Washington, Cincy, Arizona will still definitely finish behind them. So then it's a toss-up with Denver (who they play), Atlanta, Chargers (who they beat), Tampa (who they play) and even Jacksonville potentially in the mix.

Of course this is the Lions so they will probably go on to win out when it means nothing and finish 7-8-1 and end up with pick 15.

[badnews3123]

I think one of the Dolphins or Giants, likely Giants, win 4. Giants have Miami and Washington still. Miami has Cincy, Giants, Jets all they could pull off.

[Blaming Brad]

Nov 29, 2019 20:09:27 GMT -6 badnews3123 said:

I think one of the Dolphins or Giants, likely Giants, win 4. Giants have Miami and Washington still. Miami has Cincy, Giants, Jets all they could pull off.

Could be, but I think the Lions will win at least one more game, probably more. They'll win just enough to fukk themselves.

[badnews3123]

Nov 29, 2019 20:33:16 GMT -6 Blaming Brad said:

Nov 29, 2019 20:09:27 GMT -6 badnews3123 said:

I think one of the Dolphins or Giants, likely Giants, win 4. Giants have Miami and Washington still. Miami has Cincy, Giants, Jets all they could pull off.

Could be, but I think the Lions will win at least one more game, probably more. They'll win just enough to fukk themselves.

Most likely, though they seem to have an amazing ability to be in every game and lose over the last few weeks.

[Blaming Brad]

Nov 29, 2019 20:41:42 GMT -6 badnews3123 said:

Most likely, though they seem to have an amazing ability to be in every game and lose over the last few weeks.

Yeah, but that was when they still mathematically had a chance for the playoffs. Now that it doesn't matter if they win, they will win. They'll probably even beat GB. And why haven't they put Stafford on IR yet?