3 scenarios...

[badnews3123]

From draft simulator. Something to talk about while we’re all locked up. Which do you prefer?

Scenario A-Miami send 5 and 26 for Tua(think coronavirus is going to screw Lions with this, but here it is anyway)

1. Jeff Okudah CB Ohio State
1. Ross Blaclock DT TCU
2. Laviska Shenault Jr. WR Colorado
3. Robert Hunt G Lousiana
3. Clyde Edwards-Helaire RB LSU
4. KJ Hill WR Ohio State
5. Saadhiq Charles OT LSU
5. Cam Brown LB LSU
6. Anthony Gordon QB Washington State
7. Jalen Elliot S Notre Dame

Scenario B-Tua at 2, Chase Young is available

1. Chase Young EDGE Ohio State
2. Jaylon Johnson CB Utah
3. Caesar Ruiz G Michigan
3. Raekwon Davis DL Alabama
4. KJ Hill WR Ohio State
5. K’Shawn Vaughn RB Vanderbilt
5. Leki Fotu NT Utah
6. Antonio Gibson WR/RB Memphis
7. Braden Mann P Texas A&M

Scenario C-Young there, Jacksonville offers 9, 20, and 3rd(Okudah went 4 and Brown went 7)

1. Javon Kinlaw DT South Carolina
1. Jeff Gladney CB TCU
2. Josh Uche LB Michigan
3. Robert Hunt G Louisiana
3. JK Dobbins RB Ohio State
3. Kyle Duggar S Lenor-Rhyne
4. Van Jefferson WR Florida
5. Nick Coe DE Auburn
5. Leki Fotu NT Utah
6. Quintez Cephus WR Wisconsin
7. Braden Mann P Texas A&M

[huntermsu]

Give me the best pass rush prospect in option B, they have to generate pass rush with 3 or 4 as long as Patricia is running things.

[Blaming Brad]

Tough to go against scenario B but I could probably be talked into the 6 picks in the top 85 of scenario C.

[badnews3123]

I like rounds 1-4 a ton in A, but 5-7 didn’t really go the way I would like compared to the other 2.

B fell really well all the way through. 1-7 all seemed to come with guys that fit well.

C is a good haul of talent to fill out the roster. Don’t think it has the big hit ceiling that B has, but a good group that could help fill out the roster.

[goldenlions]

You pick someone else beside Ruiz, not sure his ability to play guard as he has strictly been a center, then I like scenario 2 best.

The other two are good as well.

[badnews3123]

Apr 2, 2020 10:05:56 GMT -6 goldenlions said:

You pick someone else beside Ruiz, not sure his ability to play guard as he has strictly been a center, then I like scenario 2 best.

The other two are good as well.

I think he has the ability to be a good Guard. Definitely some projection, but I think he’s fit well with what they look for in OL.

[TRUMP]

1st choice: Young. I’d even consider trading up 1 spot to get him. We have enough picks to do it
2nd choice: Simmons
3rd choice: Brown
4th choice: only if we trade down and none of the above are there, Okudah

[SingaporeLion]

I know everyone says Okudah is the consensus pick, but I really hope it's Simmons. Watching him play, he's always the best player on the field.

[SingaporeLion]

[badnews3123]

I like Simmons, but where are you playing him in this D? He’s not playing LB, he doesn’t shed blocks well enough against the run and I’m not sure they’re putting him at safety, especially with what they have already invested.

[SingaporeLion]

Apr 12, 2020 16:09:30 GMT -6 badnews3123 said:

I like Simmons, but where are you playing him in this D? He’s not playing LB, he doesn’t shed blocks well enough against the run and I’m not sure they’re putting him at safety, especially with what they have already invested.

I am not sure if you watched him play at Clemson, or the highlights but he definitely can shed blocks.  Has the size to play edge, can drop into coverage and runs sideline to sideline.  The guy is truly a freak.  Makes plays all over the field, in the back field, INTs, and drops into coverage with WR.  Dude ran a 4.39 at 6'4" and 238 pound. 

[badnews3123]

Apr 13, 2020 7:32:43 GMT -6 SingaporeLion said:

Apr 12, 2020 16:09:30 GMT -6 badnews3123 said:

I like Simmons, but where are you playing him in this D? He’s not playing LB, he doesn’t shed blocks well enough against the run and I’m not sure they’re putting him at safety, especially with what they have already invested.

I am not sure if you watched him play at Clemson, or the highlights but he definitely can shed blocks.  Has the size to play edge, can drop into coverage and runs sideline to sideline.  The guy is truly a freak.  Makes plays all over the field, in the back field, INTs, and drops into coverage with WR.  Dude ran a 4.39 at 6'4" and 238 pound. 

In different system it would matter less, but they have a very very specific fit in mind for their LB’s. I don’t see Simmons fitting in with that role unless Patricia is willing to be more flexible there, which he hasn’t shown in the past.

Simmons is not a true LB or S. He’s a hybrid guy and I don’t see them using him in that role here unless they’re willing to make some changes.

[tepod2001]

Apr 13, 2020 8:45:08 GMT -6 badnews3123 said:

Apr 13, 2020 7:32:43 GMT -6 SingaporeLion said:

I am not sure if you watched him play at Clemson, or the highlights but he definitely can shed blocks.  Has the size to play edge, can drop into coverage and runs sideline to sideline.  The guy is truly a freak.  Makes plays all over the field, in the back field, INTs, and drops into coverage with WR.  Dude ran a 4.39 at 6'4" and 238 pound. 

In different system it would matter less, but they have a very very specific fit in mind for their LB’s. I don’t see Simmons fitting in with that role unless Patricia is willing to be more flexible there, which he hasn’t shown in the past.

Simmons is not a true LB or S. He’s a hybrid guy and I don’t see them using him in that role here unless they’re willing to make some changes.

That is an interesting take.

[badnews3123]

Starting to think one with one of the Tackles would make sense. Could see that as a real possibility depending on the trade down.

[Honolulublue]

If Jacksonville comes calling I hope they offer just that.  I prefer scenario B but that's not gonna happen.  Won too many games miss out on a stud edge rusher second year in a roll.

[littlekaps]

Watched Simmons' highlights and he is what the Lions haven't had in years - a playmaker on D. Quick, who is the last Lion defenses had to SPECIFICALLY plan for each play? Slay? Meh, you knew he was on WR1 on the field. Suh? Maybe, probably. Harrison? Nah, teams knew the Lions wouldn't use him right. When Clemson played LSU in the title game, Simmons dominated early and then LSU made some changes on offense and pulled away.

I wouldn't mind trading and having C happen. I LOVE Javon Kinlaw. Like, I love him enough that if all else fails, I want him at #3. (I also love Okudah for full transparency and think they are the 2 best players in the draft. Burrow is a 1 year wonder and Tua is injury prone) Kinlaw moves his feet like a wild man and dominates the point of attack. He also has good speed chasing down RBs and QBs. Love what he brings to the table and if we trade down, I would grab Kinlaw before Brown. Remember, Brown played with a DT (Davidson), 2 DEs and 2 CBs that will be drafted while Kinlaw played with a line where maybe a DE will go late. Even with enhanced attention from opposing offensive schemers, Kinlaw had more sacks than Brown. Just big on Kinlaw.

[TRUMP]

At 3 drafting a top 10 pick is fine. Young won’t be there, Simmons will but IMO we have bigger needs at DL rather than LB, S, or CB. Brown would be my pick. As far as Browm playing with all the other talent on D, That statement is silly. Same. Could be said about all them, and Brown is the best of them.

[goldenlions]

I think the Lions get stuck at 3 and take Okudah or Brown.

[def]

Just read an article about Yannick Ngakoue wanting out of JAX bad. He will also be getting paid in full, but look at Flowers' deal? It wouldn't be much more than that for a top 3 edge guy in the NFL already? Add in Simmons and here is your run defense that wasn't there last year. Lot of possibilities, but will cost $$

[italianstallion]

forget any shot at Chase Young, carry on

[italianstallion]

No thanks on Yannick Ngakoue , the draft compensation and what he wants to get paid, no thank you and after seeing his twitter war with Jags ownership, a hell no