Post by Blaming Brad on Sept 8, 2019 18:53:44 GMT -6
Well, I'm happy to say we can't blame Stafford for this one, although it would have been nice to see him pick the team up and carry them on his shoulders those last 4 opportunities they had on offense in the 4th quarter and OT. After Bevell called that timeout I said, "The OC needs to trust his veteran QB there and 2 seconds later you could read an obviously frustrated Stafford's lips saying, 'Trust me.'"
The prevent defense...the best way to prevent you from winning...
Especially with 8 minutes left. I’d give it at least a little credence if Murray had shown any signs of life, but he was terrible when they got any pressure in his face. So they decided to drop 7 and 8 and let him sit back comfortably in the pocket. NFL coaches will never stop getting in the way of a win.
Especially with 8 minutes left. I’d give it at least a little credence if Murray had shown any signs of life, but he was terrible when they got any pressure in his face. So they decided to drop 7 and 8 and let him sit back comfortably in the pocket. NFL coaches will never stop getting in the way of a win.
Yep. Every time they blitzed him it didn't end well for him. I do think the defense was gassed in the 4th quarter though so not sure how much of it had to do with that.
Definitely some positive things to take away from the game, but man, what the fukk.
And there is no way in hell Murray is 5'10". He looked like a midget out there.
Last Edit: Sept 8, 2019 19:01:01 GMT -6 by Blaming Brad
I walked away from the Lions about 5 years ago. Cancelled my NFL Sunday Ticket and only read sports headlines on the Detroit News website. This year, I thought I would peak in and see what I had been missing. Turns out absolutely nothing has changed since the 80's/90's/00's or since 2014 when I walked away.
Good to see I didn't miss anything. I have actually enjoyed not following this bunch of losers. Even winners become Lionized. Perfect example is Amendola not getting out of bounds. He has been with the team for 1 game, and he is already Lionized.
Well, I'm happy to say we can't blame Stafford for this one, although it would have been nice to see him pick the team up and carry them on his shoulders those last 4 opportunities they had on offense in the 4th quarter and OT. After Bevell called that timeout I said, "The OC needs to trust his veteran QB there and 2 seconds later you could read an obviously frustrated Stafford's lips saying, 'Trust me.'"
Patricia not wasting timeouts(Bevell one aside)would have helped, too.
Especially with 8 minutes left. I’d give it at least a little credence if Murray had shown any signs of life, but he was terrible when they got any pressure in his face. So they decided to drop 7 and 8 and let him sit back comfortably in the pocket. NFL coaches will never stop getting in the way of a win.
Yep. Every time they blitzed him it didn't end well for him. I do think the defense was gassed in the 4th quarter though so not sure how much of it had to do with that.
Definitely some positive things to take away from the game, but man, what the fukk.
And there is no way in hell Murray is 5'10". He looked like a midget out there.
They didn’t look gassed until they started playing prevent. You want to kill an uptempo offense, force an incompletion. Cardinals had I think 2 or 3 drives of more than 6 plays before Patricia decided to take it down a gear in the 4th.
They didn’t look gassed until they started playing prevent. You want to kill an uptempo offense, force an incompletion. Cardinals had I think 2 or 3 drives of more than 6 plays before Patricia decided to take it down a gear in the 4th.
I really hope the reporters grill Patricia tomorrow in the presser for that, but I'm sure they'll just throw him the usual softballs.
They didn’t look gassed until they started playing prevent. You want to kill an uptempo offense, force an incompletion. Cardinals had I think 2 or 3 drives of more than 6 plays before Patricia decided to take it down a gear in the 4th.
I really hope the reporters grill Patricia tomorrow in the presser for that, but I'm sure they'll just throw him the usual softballs.
He won’t answer anyway or pass it off with some coach-speak. Hopefully the coaches do some self-scouting and aren’t afraid to swallow their pride and see some of the mistakes they made.
There was a lot of good to take away from the players on the field. Way more positive than negative, so to end with a tie is brutal.
He won’t answer anyway or pass it off with some coach-speak.
Absolutely, but I hope they at least ask.
By the way, what the hell was a veteran like Amendola thinking on that play in OT not going out of bounds?
And I forget exactly when it was but there was a play I believe in the first half where the Cardinals defender clearly pulled the receiver's jersey when he was trying to catch it. Why not challenge that?
And what the hell happened to Agnew? He looked so promising his rookie year.
Post by Blaming Brad on Sept 8, 2019 19:54:33 GMT -6
Snacks said on Twitter that the loss was 100% on him and he got dominated in the game. Didn't really see that other than the line as a whole not getting pressure when they went into prevent.
Offense went into conservative mode onlybup by 18. Totally assinine. Defense didn’t adjust in 2nd half. Just a total fucktard game. Stafford played well and he was pissed they called a time out suddenly and we would have had a first down. Incredible
He said Just Trust me, you could hear it on TV, like he was pissed they called it. This team is just cursed man, no two ways about it.
Ten bucks it will be this T that keeps us from a wildcard berth. I can see it already. You can't make this shit up. I can hear the commentators now, "Boy if the Lions would have beat the Cardinals in week 1 when they were up 18 in the fourth they'd be in the playoffs...."
He won’t answer anyway or pass it off with some coach-speak.
Absolutely, but I hope they at least ask.
By the way, what the hell was a veteran like Amendola thinking on that play in OT not going out of bounds?
And I forget exactly when it was but there was a play I believe in the first half where the Cardinals defender clearly pulled the receiver's jersey when he was trying to catch it. Why not challenge that?
And what the hell happened to Agnew? He looked so promising his rookie year.
I thought they could have challenged that one late where DB had two hands on Gollodays arms when was going up to catch it. They weren’t really calling any PI, so doubt it changes, but worth a look and I think it was inside 2 minutes.
That’s Agnew’s second muff this year, have to start thinking about other options. Especially since every return ends up with a flag anyway.
Ten bucks it will be this T that keeps us from a wildcard berth. I can see it already. You can't make this shit up. I can hear the commentators now, "Boy if the Lions would have beat the Cardinals in week 1 when they were up 18 in the fourth they'd be in the playoffs...."
While I'm sure this game will not be what keeps them out of the playoffs, it is amazing how the Lions continue to come up with new ways of losing (funny, I really see this tie as a loss). "Hey guys, have we lost yet where the OC calls timeout for no reason right when we would have had the game iced? No? Well, we better get on that."
Overall the offense move the well. TJ .. very encouraging and the Lions did run the ball pretty good. Little rough on 3rd down conversions. The OL was wildly inconsistent and hurt the offense.
Tyler Dekker ... wow what a shit show.
Special teams a shit show. Muffed punt, blocked punt.
Who is Trey Flowers? Is there any pass rush at all? The 4th quarter the defense was tired and they allowed the rookie to make plays.
And the time out..yes.
There were some missed pick plays not called on the Cards back to back when they scored the td and converted the two pt. Conversion.
A few key plays lost this game. The Lions found a way to lose a game they should have easily one. Penalties, special teams gaffs, liberal use of time outs by coaches on offense and defense, no pass rush to speak of.
It's not the sky is falling. There were certainly some encouraging things. OL play. Special teams gaffs and lack of pass rush was by far the biggest concern.
Post by badnews3123 on Sept 9, 2019 1:42:31 GMT -6
They lacked pass rush in the 4th because they chose to. They didn’t have issue getting after Murray for first 3 quarters, then they decided to play it safe.
Tracy Walker could not cover Fitzgerald. The vaunted run defense got blown off the fucking ball and allowed almost 5 yards/carry. OL was a replay of groundhog day with holding and offside penalties that terminated the first 2 offensive series of the second half and how many sacks did T Suggs have? When did Decker become a Matador? Special teams gave the Cardinals momentum and 11 points. They were fucking horrible.
The use of time outs at the end of the game helped the Cards more than it helped the defense and offense. What a cluster fuck Patricia. Way to blow an 18 point lead in the 4th quarter.
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