That or they thought they would be smart and try to throw AZ off.
Just so you know, Bevell can't call a timeout. The only one on the sidelines that can call a timeout is Patricia, he motioned over to Patricia who would be back in AZ secondary with 2-3 seconds on the playclock and the ref in the backfield was the one who whistled for the timeout. But I think Patricia just trusted Bevell's judgement in that situation and called the timeout (somehow) before the ball was snapped. When they panned over to Patricia later, you could see he was disgusted.
Bevell was signaling it, so he was also likely saying it over the headset.
Also saw something Lions had someone designated that could call TO’s because of Patricia having limited mobility.
I never heard that, but it would make sense with the mobility issues. But it was obviously Patricia that called the timeout after Bevell requested it in the headset, because the ref closest to Bevell didn't even move when Bevell was signalling the TO. And the ref by Patricia was the one that was blowing the whistle.
That or they thought they would be smart and try to throw AZ off.
Just so you know, Bevell can't call a timeout. The only one on the sidelines that can call a timeout is Patricia, he motioned over to Patricia who would be back in AZ secondary with 2-3 seconds on the playclock and the ref in the backfield was the one who whistled for the timeout. But I think Patricia just trusted Bevell's judgement in that situation and called the timeout (somehow) before the ball was snapped. When they panned over to Patricia later, you could see he was disgusted.
Patricia was going nuts. I dont think Parricia called it I think Bevell did. Kind of also explains Bevell's body language and the weird call the next play. He just called a random play because he knew he fucked up calling the time out.
I think Patrica jumped on the grenade.
Again this is just a hair brained theory. Patricia certainly could have called the time out.
Post by badnews3123 on Sept 10, 2019 12:01:26 GMT -6
Didn’t see a ton different than I thought I would on gamepass.
They stopped being as aggressive with their fronts and packages up front to create confusion and pressure the first 2 drives of 4th quarter. Murray was able to sit back with more comfort without having to diagnose the fronts and if they were going to drop DL back, rush a LB, stunt, twist or do anything to shake him up. Mainly rushed 4 andn tried to contain him to the pocket.
Timeout looms large because Arizona had run 2 long drives in the 4th with only a 3 and out sandwiched in between. A drive that was 2 runs and a pass short of the sticks. Offense was already in clock mode, going conservative, they were running play clock down. The play call was also perfect for the D the Cards were in. McKissic is picking up at least 10-15 yards with room for more.
The play out of the timeout is bad. I get having a vertical route there because Cards were showing blitz(and did)with no deep help. But with them bringing extra rushers, you also have to have one of those routes break off short to help Stafford out. Vertical is there if all goes well, but otherwise you have a dig or anything underneath there and trust your WR to get open and Stafford to make the right call.
For Vic, they did move Slay to Fitzgerald. It was in OT though. Maybe his presence deters Murray, because he stayed away from Slay, but still Walker wasn’t in bad position. Especially the pass in OT. The throw was perfect and Fitz made a great catch.
Really liked what Bevell did with offense. Timeout and play after was an issue. Thought they got a little conservative late, though it may not be all his call. Would like to see a little more PA, but some really good route combos an his use of Hockenson really opened some things up. If Tackles can get shit together offense could be dangerous. They have some good weapons and I would have liked them to lean a little more on Kerryon, but a good mix of RB’s that can do different things. Stafford had a really strong game, that almost int in OT though could have erased all that though, that one was real bad.
LB’s played well. Maybin was solid filling in. Tavai had a few issues(one in coverage in OT was bad), but overall was decent. Thought Christian Jones had a strong game.
Need to get that DL up to speed. Mike Daniels was causing problems when he was out there, saw flashes of Flowers versatility.
Tie sucks. May come back to haunt them, but from player standpoint. More good than bad. Some poor coaching decisions hurt them.
Post by goldenlions on Sept 10, 2019 22:15:50 GMT -6
Just depends on how they look against a better team in the Chargers. Not ready to throw the team under the bus and call this a bad season. But that Dline needs to be what we expected them to be or we have no shot. Oline is the Oline, Decker is a huge disappointment. Not sure why the Lions haven't been able to get a stud LT in the last 20 years.
At the end of the day it is just a game, but it would have been nice to start with a W, still a T isn't as bad as an L. Hey you never know, one day we might see this team in a Super Bowl
Tie is basically a loss for a team like the Lions! If you are interested in the root of the problem, here it is.
All I have to say is FPPF! That stands for Free Pass Piggy Face. 5000 yards or whatever doesn't mean shit if your QB can not put games away! Since this guy has been on the team, all I hear from the media and most of you is how other players or the coaches fucked up! Stafford gets a shit load of yards but he either has a mediocre passing percentage or a bad yards per attempt average and a weak touch pass that has been hurting this team for years! Since being on the team, Stafford made the playoffs 3 times and LOST ALL OF THEM! I'm glad Stafford is a good fantasy football player for some of you, but unfortunately that doesn't mean he is actually a good NFL QB! Fans and media that continue to support Stafford do not really understand what the "IT FACTOR" is and never will! Could the Lions have easily won last week if they had one or two better players on the field? The answer is yes, however the Lions simply don't have the extra money year after year to improve key positions because they have a CAP KILLING QB.
Post by goldenlions on Sept 12, 2019 8:33:22 GMT -6
The hits keep coming from Tech!
He obviously didn’t watch the game since Stafford, outside of one play which ultimately meant nothing, was probably the best player on the field last Sunday.
Unless this is just a bitch to bitch post because you haven’t watched a game in 4 years.
He obviously didn’t watch the game since Stafford, outside of one play which ultimately meant nothing, was probably the best player on the field last Sunday.
Unless this is just a bitch to bitch post because you haven’t watched a game in 4 years.
Best player on the field?????????????????? 60% passing percentage! Only 3 teams won that had a QB that threw 60% or less last week! Week after week Stafford is among the leaders of passing attempts. If you throw the ball enough you are going to gain a lot of yardage and make an occasional good play! You are clueless about what being a good QB is all about!!
I watch the Lions every chance I get! You can not argue the facts so you simply say I don't watch the games!
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Also the Lions have 19 million in cap space, so that’s not what’s stopping them from having 1 or 2 better players.
Tech only knows how to play the hits though.
In order to build a good well rounded team you need extra cap money every year. No way a team will be able to get enough players in one year to be a top tier team. Stafford's contract has been the single biggest thing holding back the Lions since he's been on the team.
Post by Blaming Brad on Sept 12, 2019 10:36:52 GMT -6
I think people are sucking Stafford's dick too much about Sunday's game. He was great for 3 quarters and then basically disappeared when they needed him most, which seems to be a regular theme with him since last season. And what would people be saying about him right now if that defender didn't let an easy INT bounce off his face in OT?
Also the Lions have 19 million in cap space, so that’s not what’s stopping them from having 1 or 2 better players.
Tech only knows how to play the hits though.
In order to build a good well rounded team you need extra cap money every year. No way a team will be able to get enough players in one year to be a top tier team. Stafford's contract has been the single biggest thing holding back the Lions since he's been on the team.
I think people are sucking Stafford's dick too much about Sunday's game. He was great for 3 quarters and then basically disappeared when they needed him most, which seems to be a regular theme with him since last season. And what would people be saying about him right now if that defender didn't let an easy INT bounce off his face in OT?
He threw 4 passes in the 4th quarter, only so much he can do. And had they not called timeout would have had the game pretty much on ice.
And while I don’t think it was a great decision on that last pass, it was tipped at the line. I had more issue with taking that sack before it. Though I’d go back again to I didn’t think timeouts were managed well.
Overall he was very good Sunday, putting the tie on him is stupid.
Overall he was very good Sunday, putting the tie on him is stupid.
Definitely not putting the "loss" on him. Just would have been nice if he and his $30M cap hit put the team on his shoulders in OT. For what it's worth at least it was good to see some emotion out of him after the time out.
Post by badnews3123 on Sept 12, 2019 12:26:14 GMT -6
He drove them down the field on the first drive and 3-5 for 53 yard and that ball to Golladay in EZ you could make an argument, he should have hauled in. Though it wouldn’t have counted since there was another penalty.
The last drive was a disaster. TO’s had been mismanaged, protection was poor, and Amendola killed them by not getting out of bounds.
He obviously didn’t watch the game since Stafford, outside of one play which ultimately meant nothing, was probably the best player on the field last Sunday.
Unless this is just a bitch to bitch post because you haven’t watched a game in 4 years.
Best player on the field?????????????????? 60% passing percentage! Only 3 teams won that had a QB that threw 60% or less last week! Week after week Stafford is among the leaders of passing attempts. If you throw the ball enough you are going to gain a lot of yardage and make an occasional good play! You are clueless about what being a good QB is all about!!
I watch the Lions every chance I get! You can not argue the facts so you simply say I don't watch the games!
Completion percentage is your stat to measure QBs?
I suppose Kirk Cousins had a far superior day with his 80% completion percentage right???
Completion % is a fake stat that combines passing accuracy and receivers catching the ball. To me completion percentage is about as useful as pitcher wins in baseball. It's a starting point, but does not tell the entire story.
I think people are sucking Stafford's dick too much about Sunday's game. He was great for 3 quarters and then basically disappeared when they needed him most, which seems to be a regular theme with him since last season. And what would people be saying about him right now if that defender didn't let an easy INT bounce off his face in OT?
And so was rest of the team.
And don't play the what if game that is just stupid.
What if Decker didn't allow Stafford to get sacked. What if Agnew catches a damn punt.
He threw 4 passes in the 4th quarter, only so much he can do.
Well, if he moved the chains in any of those drives he would have had more than 4 passes. But keep making excuses for him. I'm sure he'll get it figured out in year 11.
He threw 4 passes in the 4th quarter, only so much he can do.
Well, if he moved the chains in any of those drives he would have had more than 4 passes. But keep making excuses for him. I'm sure he'll get it figured out in year 11.
He did and then he did again and they decided to called a timeout.
I get the skepticism with Stafford. This isn’t the fight though.