Bullshit...maybe because the poll your siting was conducted in rural Arkansas
I have good friends in ... Ohio of all places. Business owners. Active volunteers in their community. Devout fathers. Who believe the election was stolen. Their reasoning? They simply can't fathom that people would actually vote for a party that supports violent "protesters" who burn cities down. Or who want to defund the police.
... And when they put it that way, I can kinda' see their point. I might not agree with them, because I totally believe people would support Hitler as long as he wins their party's primary. But I can totally see their point.
I mean ... I lean liberal myself and live in Chicago, so I'm part of the problem. But if you (we) voted democratic in this last election, we put our stamp of approval on all this. The Race National anthem. The border crisis. Portland and Minneapolis burning to the ground. We're culpable.
Last Edit: Aug 4, 2021 8:22:58 GMT -6 by rustyhilger
You're giving people WAY too much credit. Last I heard, 25% of Americans still think Trump actually won the election.
Bullshit...maybe because the poll your siting was conducted in rural Arkansas
You are giving the media too much credit and obviously getting your statistics from mainstream propaganda....errrr media. A vast vast vast majority PPL don't give a fuck what color anyone is. Nobody cares, except the people weaponizing race.
Random poll conducted by Ipsos/Reuters. Only 35% of respondents were republican. I will admit however the sample size of 2,007 people seems extremely small to me so might not mean much.
I'd like to believe what you say is true about people in this country, but based on what I've seen over the past several years I just don't see it. Could also have to do with where I live in Central PA.
I mean ... I lean liberal myself and live in Chicago, so I'm part of the problem. But if you (we) voted democratic in this last election, we put our stamp of approval on all this.
Isn't that a bit of a broad statement? If you didn't vote democratic you likely voted for the orange guy. Which is worse?
I mean ... I lean liberal myself and live in Chicago, so I'm part of the problem. But if you (we) voted democratic in this last election, we put our stamp of approval on all this.
Isn't that a bit of a broad statement? If you didn't vote democratic you likely voted for the orange guy. Which is worse?
The orange guy was just an asshole. He fucked up a lot of shit esp with Covid response, but he is not to the point of fundimentally radically changing this country to the point of the communist party we have in power now.
I mean ... I lean liberal myself and live in Chicago, so I'm part of the problem. But if you (we) voted democratic in this last election, we put our stamp of approval on all this.
Isn't that a bit of a broad statement? If you didn't vote democratic you likely voted for the orange guy. Which is worse?
It depends on your priorities. I never meant to say that the alternative didn't have it's drawbacks. It certainly does. But at the very least, he did throw his support behind the men in blue. And he was a giant cock whom no one liked.
He also ripped apart the foundation of our democracy by publicly calling on Russia to hack his opponents databases which, by the way, has gotten certain other presidents impeached, but which he played off by saying "I was only kidding."
Honestly, it's a toss up. Do you want this giant cockbreath of a turd (Trump), or do you want the Democratic party to run things by committee, i.e. Turd incorporated (aka Kamala Harris and crew)?
It was a coin toss for me, but ultimately I voted against the guy openly soliciting hostile foreign enemies to hack his opponent's intel.
That's kind of where I draw my line in the pile of shit. But it was a tough decision and yes I do accept partial responsibility for the total chaos and disarray that particular turd of a party seems to endorse.
Last Edit: Aug 4, 2021 13:28:35 GMT -6 by rustyhilger
The orange guy was just an asshole. He fucked up a lot of shit esp with Covid response, but he is not to the point of fundimentally radically changing this country to the point of the communist party we have in power now.
Kind of to Rusty's point, pick your poison. I'm not sure how you can say what Trump did to this country in 4 years is any less terrible than what Biden & Co have been doing.
The orange guy was just an asshole. He fucked up a lot of shit esp with Covid response, but he is not to the point of fundimentally radically changing this country to the point of the communist party we have in power now.
Kind of to Rusty's point, pick your poison. I'm not sure how you can say what Trump did to this country in 4 years is any less terrible than what Biden & Co have been doing.
I feel like I was flat-out duped with Biden.
I voted for him because he ran as a moderate. Because I did not want Birney or Kamala or any of those crazies. He was supposed to be the guy who would govern down the center.
We were all duped. He got in office and handed over the day-to-day duties of the presidency to a committee consisting of ... all of those extremists I wanted nothing to do with in the primaries. Along with a hand-selected crew of the most extremist members of the Obama cabinet.
We're fucked now.
Last Edit: Aug 4, 2021 14:18:21 GMT -6 by rustyhilger
While I didn't vote for him (nor Hillary), I actually kind of felt duped by Trump. Despite his flaws I thought if nothing else maybe he would at least challenge the corruption in politics a bit (or as he liked to say, "drain the swamp") and he basically did the complete opposite. I think that's what shocks me the most about people that continue to support him. He sold them a bill of goods that he totally didn't deliver on and somehow managed to make worse what he promised his sheep he would make better.
Last Edit: Aug 4, 2021 15:17:08 GMT -6 by Blaming Brad
I actually kind of felt duped by Trump. Despite his flaws I thought if nothing else maybe he would at least challenge the corruption in politics ...
Yea, for a guy who supposedly despised politics so much, he sure did play the political game an awful lot. What didn't he politicize?
And as far as his appointments, he just replaced the traditional practice of appointing friends of your donors with his own kids. How is that an improvement?
While I didn't vote for him (nor Hillary), I actually kind of felt duped by Trump. Despite his flaws I thought if nothing else maybe he would at least challenge the corruption in politics a bit (or as he liked to say, "drain the swamp") and he basically did the complete opposite. I think that's what shocks me the most about people that continue to support him. He sold them a bill of goods that he totally didn't deliver on and somehow managed to make worse what he promised his sheep he would make better.
He exposed so much of it, IMO. You can say Trump is a jerk, but they went after him like no other. Why? He isn't one of them. He isn't bought and paid for despite what your news channel tells you. I know media, work in media, 5 of the big 6 are mouthpieces for the left and Disney just bought a stake in the 6th. From day one he was attacked via the political hit job Obama DOJ spying, trying to dig dirt. What did they find? Jack shit. He killed ISIS by the way. Remember those terrorist fucks getting their heads blown off? Yeah NYT called Salamani a philosopher. GTFO. And oh by the way, nobody knows if Russia hacked the DNC. It could have been china or Seth Rich, the DNC worker who was off'd in DC after closing time. The corruption is so rampant and HAS BEEN FOR DECADES, the Bushes are wretched, the Clintons even worse and the Obama put a charming smile on that same criminal behavior. They get away with everything, from Fast and Furious to ... dare I say funding gain of function research to make a Virus that ironically enough was unleashed during an election year, just after Trump had China in a trade war headlock....so please enough with the jerky face Tweeter, big whoop, now China is embedding in our GOV and those fat cats at the top are getting fatter. Every channel, every newspaper was bashing Trump 24/7, it's called propaganda....because the establishment doesn't like Trump's policies, which were his bread and butter. Biden STOPPED the pipeline and fossil fuel fracking in our own country, when gas was under 2 bucks a gallon, now it's 3.30, GTFO! Most of you probably follow some news on the ole Spectrum or Comcast, and that's the problem, the bias is so steep in MSM media that it's truly state run media, the liberals mouthpiece. It is what it is, but the economy was booming, people were MAKING MONEY and suddenly in an election year, it was like they had no choice. They were caught spying for Obama and they had no chance to beat Trump without mail ins and this virus, which was all concocted to remove him and it worked.
Also, Check Maricopa county....they are doing audits AND Canvasing, trying to tie each ballot to a REAL PERSON and the results are ridiculous. Many voting laws were changed, especially in Georgia and I never seen counters just stop in the dead of night and scan ballots either trucked in or there at the site. I know, inherently, that when all swing states' counting stopped that the jig was up....Biden did not win. SORRY! the Supreme Court didn't even look at Sidney Powell and Rudy's G's case because they filed it wrong....watch what happens and why the media isn't covering the Maricopia recounts....get real people...those in GOV are more corrupt than the mafia.
Anyone who thinks that Powell and Rudy were screwed because they didn't file their suits properly has lost touch with reality. She is arguing that no reasonable person, (def), could believe what she was arguing. This is the same defense that Tucker Carlson SUCCESSFULLY used to defend himself from a defamation lawsuit.
All I have to say about election fraud: If the election was free, fair, and secure as the Dems say it was. Why are they fighting so hard to stop forensic audits??? They should want to prove that Biden won fair and square. However, at Maricopa County, the election board will not provide the mail in ballot envelopes displaying ballot signatures used for comparison. They will not provide the routers to the Dominion Machines and Election Management System. These routers store all IP addresses that have accessed the system and provides any and all information if tampering has occurred. WHY won't they provide this info?
Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia are all in court fights with "Dems and Rinos" over forensic audits. IMO, they are definitely hiding the truth. The fucking election was stolen!!!
Last Edit: Aug 5, 2021 8:06:07 GMT -6 by liongeezer
So def, why can't anyone find voter fraud in republican controlled states that voted for Biden?
That is a good point Dane "all states" should be doing a forensic audit to find any and all fraud. Then create laws and techniques that can eliminate the fraud or irregularities that are found. Information taken from recent polls says 90% of Americans want free and fair elections, 74% want the use of some type of voter ID. Our Election System has to be fixed before the next election, or the shit will hit the fucking fan.
P.S. I also believe that from now on after each election a percentage of states should be randomly chosen for forensic audits to ensure voter integrity of our system.
Last Edit: Aug 5, 2021 8:03:54 GMT -6 by liongeezer
All I have to say about election fraud: If the election was free, fair, and secure as the Dems say it was. Why are they fighting so hard to stop forensic audits??? They should want to prove that Biden won fair and square. However, at Maricopa County, the election board will not provide the mail in ballot envelopes displaying ballot signatures used for comparison. They will not provide the routers to the Dominion Machines and Election Management System. These routers store all IP addresses that have accessed the system and provides any and all information if tampering has occurred. WHY won't they provide this info?
Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia are all in court fights with "Dems and Rinos" against forensic audits. IMO, they are definitely hiding the truth. The fucking election was stolen!!!
Liongeezer, i fully agree with you on all of this.
I am also convinced the world is flat.
And if I can't get every single scientist on the planet to sign a letter and provide verifiable proof that the world is indeed round, then it means they're lying. Think about it. Why don't they all just stop whatever it is they're doing to handle my request? What are they hiding?
If they can't do this, then not only does it mean the world is indeed flat, but it means my little feels will be hurt.
Last Edit: Aug 5, 2021 8:10:26 GMT -6 by rustyhilger
All I have to say about election fraud: If the election was free, fair, and secure as the Dems say it was. Why are they fighting so hard to stop forensic audits??? They should want to prove that Biden won fair and square. However, at Maricopa County, the election board will not provide the mail in ballot envelopes displaying ballot signatures used for comparison. They will not provide the routers to the Dominion Machines and Election Management System. These routers store all IP addresses that have accessed the system and provides any and all information if tampering has occurred. WHY won't they provide this info?
Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia are all in court fights with "Dems and Rinos" against forensic audits. IMO, they are definitely hiding the truth. The fucking election was stolen!!!
Liongeezer, i fully agree with you on all of this.
I am also convinced the world is flat.
And if I can't get every single scientist on the planet to sign a letter and provide verifiable proof that the world is indeed round, then it means they're lying. Think about it. Why don't they all just stop whatever it is they're doing to handle my request? What are they hiding?
If they can't do this, then not only does it mean the world is indeed flat, but it means my little feels will be hurt.
No Rusty, the world is not flat, but your humor is. Also your soliloquy of nonsense above just shows stupidity. Forensic audits should be welcomed by all, if not, then a total investigation should be performed at all costs.
Forensic audits should be welcomed by all, if not, then a total investigation should be performed at all costs.
Who's going to pay for these forensic audits? I take it you think we should just print more money on top of all the other money we've been printing. You ever hear of the old phrase "bigger fish to fry?" If not, then I'll explain. It means we've got bigger fish to fry.