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Aug 6, 2021 14:09:07 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

Aug 6, 2021 13:01:35 GMT -6 @lionissleeping said:

Lol.... 77,000 votes spread over a handful of counties in 4 states change the result of the Presidential election. No real big effort at all.

Pffffttt!!!!!!!

ONLY four fucking states? Out of just a "handful of counties" in four freaking states ... they're going to be so tight lipped that not a single person comes forth on Tucker Carlson to say "I was recruited to help throw the election?" You gotta' be out of your mind. 

Who on earth, in their right mind, would go through that effort when they could just hire a single pretty intern to grab his balls and save their text conversations?

You're not thinking.

What you're suggesting is tantamount to hiring a swat team to steal a stick of chewing gum from a drug store, crawling in through the vents. Just walk in the front door and take it asshole.

People are such morons.

I think these people want to perform these "audits" as at least some sort of gesture that they heard their constituents calling foul, foul, and there were some very strange happenings with these mail in ballots on election day. If all is good, then all is good. These people who are questioning this mail in fraud deserve at least that. If the shoe were on the other foot the Democrats would be burning the cities down. All these people want is a check on the voting integrity. lol. I don't think people will swallow the things Democrats are spewing out. They at least want these audits and they don't care that Democrats are upset.

[rustyhilger]

Aug 6, 2021 20:04:02 GMT -6 @lionissleeping said:

Aug 6, 2021 14:09:07 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

Pffffttt!!!!!!!

ONLY four fucking states? Out of just a "handful of counties" in four freaking states ... they're going to be so tight lipped that not a single person comes forth on Tucker Carlson to say "I was recruited to help throw the election?" You gotta' be out of your mind. 

Who on earth, in their right mind, would go through that effort when they could just hire a single pretty intern to grab his balls and save their text conversations?

You're not thinking.

What you're suggesting is tantamount to hiring a swat team to steal a stick of chewing gum from a drug store, crawling in through the vents. Just walk in the front door and take it asshole.

People are such morons.

I think these people want to perform these "audits" as at least some sort of gesture that they heard their constituents calling foul, foul, and there were some very strange happenings with these mail in ballots on election day. If all is good, then all is good. These people who are questioning this mail in fraud deserve at least that. If the shoe were on the other foot the Democrats would be burning the cities down. All these people want is a check on the voting integrity. lol. I don't think people will swallow the things Democrats are spewing out. They at least want these audits and they don't care that Democrats are upset.

Again, you're not thinking. These are the democrats we're talking about. Ballot-recounting is big money. Big spending. When have democrats ever turned down an opportunity to throw unnecessary money at something completely frivolous?

The fact they're not jumping at this opportunity tells you all you need to know. There ain't nothin' to see here.

[thedane]

I'm not a Democrat and this shit is just an attempt to push a "narrative" that the election was stolen. Voting integrity doesn't have a fucking thing to do with it.

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Aug 6, 2021 13:50:32 GMT -6 thedane said:

Aug 6, 2021 13:01:35 GMT -6 @lionissleeping said:

There could have easily been enough fraud perpetrated in those 4 states alone.

Really? And just how do you think that could have happened?

I believe that is why they are doing these "Forensic Audits". Everything may end up hunky dory...I don't know. I am just curious as to what the findings are. Many think it isn't possible to have this level of fraud. There is always some fraud but it usually isn't enough to change an election. Looking at the amount of furor caused by this election I think taking a look and presenting the findings is a good thing especially where it was razor thin and . Obviously some people think there was massive fraud... I have no idea and it seems unlikely. People tend to shoot off their mouths and brag about things like this (Fraud). But let them do these audits and if nothing significant is found then that is that. My point was someone here  said Hundreds of thousands of people had to be involved for fraud in these 4 states to get 78000 votes. With Ballot harvesting the ballots are collected, legal ballots and they could easily be filled out mailed by a group or croups that collect them and then its up to a signature check. You don't know who fills out the ballot and signs the envelope. And Ballot harvesting happens. Thousands of ballots are collected and either filled out for the person or just collected and filled out.. then mailed ..it's even legal in some states. So there is a concern with this type of "Shenanigan". Is it enough, can it be proven.. I'm just curious

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Aug 6, 2021 20:08:24 GMT -6 thedane said:

I'm not a Democrat and this shit is just an attempt to push a "narrative" that the election was stolen. Voting integrity doesn't have a fucking thing to do with it.

You may be right. But these "Audit" groups are going to have to come up with some sort of proof or at least raise some serious questions. It will really look bad for them if they fall flat on their face and come up with nothing. My thought are to let them audit away and we will see what if anything they find. At least then we won't have to hear about this over and over. 

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Aug 6, 2021 20:07:39 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

Aug 6, 2021 20:04:02 GMT -6 @lionissleeping said:

I think these people want to perform these "audits" as at least some sort of gesture that they heard their constituents calling foul, foul, and there were some very strange happenings with these mail in ballots on election day. If all is good, then all is good. These people who are questioning this mail in fraud deserve at least that. If the shoe were on the other foot the Democrats would be burning the cities down. All these people want is a check on the voting integrity. lol. I don't think people will swallow the things Democrats are spewing out. They at least want these audits and they don't care that Democrats are upset.

Again, you're not thinking. These are the democrats we're talking about. Ballot-recounting is big money. Big spending. When have democrats ever turned down an opportunity to throw unnecessary money at something completely frivolous?

The fact they're not jumping at this opportunity tells you all you need to know. There ain't nothin' to see here.

It also appears that since they (Democrats) came out the winner there is no need to look, there is no there there. lol If the Shoe was on the other foot Cities would be burning.  Let them Audit away. They will be looking mighty foolish if nothing major is found. But at least people looked and found something or nothing and this issue is dead.

[rustyhilger]

Aug 6, 2021 20:35:45 GMT -6 @lionissleeping said:

Aug 6, 2021 20:07:39 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

Again, you're not thinking. These are the democrats we're talking about. Ballot-recounting is big money. Big spending. When have democrats ever turned down an opportunity to throw unnecessary money at something completely frivolous?

The fact they're not jumping at this opportunity tells you all you need to know. There ain't nothin' to see here.

It also appears that since they (Democrats) came out the winner there is no need to look, there is no there there. lol If the Shoe was on the other foot Cities would be burning.  Let them Audit away. They will be looking mighty foolish if nothing major is found. But at least people looked and found something or nothing and this issue is dead.

Dead? Not as long as there's big money and big spending on the line. Investigations mean more bureaucrats, more spending, more bills. But Investigations of Investigations? Now you're whispering sweet nothings. Only thing better to their ears? Investigations of investigations of investigations.

What do you think these guys have in common? They were all once beauticians? hah! THEY'RE ALL LAWYERS.

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Aug 6, 2021 20:55:27 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

Aug 6, 2021 20:35:45 GMT -6 @lionissleeping said:

It also appears that since they (Democrats) came out the winner there is no need to look, there is no there there. lol If the Shoe was on the other foot Cities would be burning.  Let them Audit away. They will be looking mighty foolish if nothing major is found. But at least people looked and found something or nothing and this issue is dead.

Dead? Not as long as there's big money and big spending on the line. Investigations mean more bureaucrats, more spending, more bills. But Investigations of Investigations? Now you're whispering sweet nothings. Only thing better to their ears? Investigations of investigations of investigations.

What do you think these guys have in common? They were all once beauticians? hah! THEY'RE ALL LAWYERS.

If this State Senate Audit in Arizona (Maricopa County) falls flat, it's over unless somebody steps in to somehow stop it before they finish. Then one side will scream bloody murder and demand Investigations on why it was stopped.. You are correct there. Let them finish and produce some sort of report and lets be done with it. You do know the State Senate in PA is ordering up a Maricopa County type Audit in 3 counties in PA. Georgia is in the works for 3 counties and also WI. 

[liongeezer]

Aug 6, 2021 18:26:52 GMT -6 Blaming Brad said:

Aug 6, 2021 17:48:08 GMT -6 liongeezer said:

Maricopa County has already found large discrepancies with mail-in ballots. There were 75,000 more mail-in ballots received than sent out. Also, numerous mail-in ballots, numbered as originals, were printed on non-ballot paper. The reason they could tell it is non-ballot paper is because, normal-ballot paper is designed to not allow ink to bleed through the page. IOW the non-ballot paper ballots have been created illegally. Many of these ballots voted for Biden.

P.S. I don't understand why more of you guys aren't more concerned about this shit. Voting has to be free and fair. I don't mind losing an election when it is free and fair, but when cheating is involved my voice no longer counts and that FUCKING PISSES ME OFF!!!!

People would be more concerned about it if any of it was based on actual facts. That Maricopa investigation was a complete shit show. As Dane pointed out, when the GOP was challenged, their defense was that no one would believe it anyway. Stop believing everything you hear from Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, just like liberals should stop believing everything they hear from Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper. Geezer, the best advice I can give you is to use this reference as your news source from now on. You can thank me later. www.allsides.com

Actually BB, Fox News has not covered the Maricopa County Forensic Audit at all.  Have you ever heard of One American News?  They are the only news agency I know of, that has covered the Forensic Audit from start to finish.  But I would like to add, the Arizona Senate invited all News agencies to participate and observe the entire Audit.  Also the audit was under the scrutiny of cameras recording the entire process of counting and verifying the ballots.  So it is based on fact, with chain of custody, video recording as the audit opened each box containing ballots, ballot inventory inside each box.  You get the Idea.  All proceedings was performed so that the Audit would hold up as evidence in court.  People will be going to jail. 

[liongeezer]

Aug 6, 2021 20:08:24 GMT -6 thedane said:

I'm not a Democrat and this shit is just an attempt to push a "narrative" that the election was stolen. Voting integrity doesn't have a fucking thing to do with it.

Oh the election was stolen there is no doubt about that.  No way did China Joe and the Lil HO get 80 million votes.  This will be called the crime of the century, when marxist cheated to gain political power and now spending our nation into runaway inflation, maybe bankruptcy.   My bet is they will steal a large percentage of the 1.2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill combined with the 3.5 trillion dollar welfare bill.  They also opened our southern border to corona variants coming from all over the world.  Can you say perpetual Pandemic.

[rustyhilger]

Aug 6, 2021 21:45:56 GMT -6 liongeezer said:

and now spending our nation into runaway inflation, maybe bankruptcy.   My bet is they will steal a large percentage of the 1.2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill combined with the 3.5 trillion dollar welfare bill.

I think we'll go bankrupt from all these "investigations" you Trumpies love so much, first.

[liongeezer]

Aug 6, 2021 22:47:30 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

Aug 6, 2021 21:45:56 GMT -6 liongeezer said:

and now spending our nation into runaway inflation, maybe bankruptcy.   My bet is they will steal a large percentage of the 1.2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill combined with the 3.5 trillion dollar welfare bill.

I think we'll go bankrupt from all these "investigations" you Trumpies love so much, first.

Actually a majority of the Audit cost was fighting Dems and Maricopa County Election commission in court.  As a matter of fact, the Election commission is in "contempt of court" because the will not turn over mail-in ballot envelopes and the Dominion Voting Machine and EMS routers 

[Blaming Brad]

Aug 6, 2021 21:14:30 GMT -6 liongeezer said:

Actually BB, Fox News has not covered the Maricopa County Forensic Audit at all.  Have you ever heard of One American News?  They are the only news agency I know of, that has covered the Forensic Audit from start to finish.

You are seriously citing OAN as your news source??? Holy shit, you can't make this stuff up. OAN makes FOX look liberal.

www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/media/2021/06/12/one-america-news-network-christina-bobb-arizona-audit-coverage-dangerous/7649991002/

[liongeezer]

Aug 7, 2021 6:11:36 GMT -6 Blaming Brad said:

Aug 6, 2021 21:14:30 GMT -6 liongeezer said:

Actually BB, Fox News has not covered the Maricopa County Forensic Audit at all.  Have you ever heard of One American News?  They are the only news agency I know of, that has covered the Forensic Audit from start to finish.

You are seriously citing OAN as your news source??? Holy shit, you can't make this stuff up. OAN makes FOX look liberal.

www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/media/2021/06/12/one-america-news-network-christina-bobb-arizona-audit-coverage-dangerous/7649991002/

BB, I did not reference or cite OAN.  I said that OAN provided coverage or televised the Forensic Audit.  The information I referenced was from the Arizona Senate news conference providing results from the ballot portion of the audit.

Be careful Sir who to believe.  The Arizona Republic Newspaper is owned by Gannett Media, now a left leaning news source, providing hit pieces that only spout propaganda and biased opinion.

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Aug 7, 2021 9:00:01 GMT -6 liongeezer said:

Aug 7, 2021 6:11:36 GMT -6 Blaming Brad said:

You are seriously citing OAN as your news source??? Holy shit, you can't make this stuff up. OAN makes FOX look liberal.

www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/media/2021/06/12/one-america-news-network-christina-bobb-arizona-audit-coverage-dangerous/7649991002/

BB, I did not reference or cite OAN.  I said that OAN provided coverage or televised the Forensic Audit.  The information I referenced was from the Arizona Senate news conference providing results from the ballot portion of the audit.

Be careful Sir who to believe.  The Arizona Republic Newspaper is owned by Gannett Media, now a left leaning news source, providing hit pieces that only spout propaganda and biased opinion.

I, as many others are waiting to see if there is any substance to these claims of fraud. I have an open mind and would like to see the results. What I don't like is the absolutely unhinged triggered sky screaming attacks on these people who want these audits performed. That's not a good look. Now the sky screamers may be proven to be right all along but not without a lot of mouth frothing bloviating rhetoric. This is a free country, or it was. Let these people poke around. Maybe nothing comes of it, maybe something good comes of it. 

[rustyhilger]

Aug 7, 2021 4:07:46 GMT -6 liongeezer said:

Aug 6, 2021 22:47:30 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

I think we'll go bankrupt from all these "investigations" you Trumpies love so much, first.

Actually a majority of the Audit cost was fighting Dems and Maricopa County Election commission in court.  As a matter of fact, the Election commission is in "contempt of court" because the will not turn over mail-in ballot envelopes and the Dominion Voting Machine and EMS routers 

... And the lawyers just keep getting richer.


Obamas: Harvard Law. 

Biden? Syracuse University College of Law

Kamala Harris, (Attorney General) University of California, Hastings College of Law.

You think these guys actually have something to hide? Of do you think they just like litigation and busy courts? I'm going with "busy courts" for $200, Jack.

[rustyhilger]

Aug 7, 2021 9:17:29 GMT -6 @lionissleeping said:

What I don't like is the absolutely unhinged triggered sky screaming attacks on these people who want these audits performed. That's not a good look. Now the sky screamers may be proven to be right all along but not without a lot of mouth frothing bloviating rhetoric. This is a free country, or it was. Let these people poke around. Maybe nothing comes of it, maybe something good comes of it. 

You mean like with the Mueller investigations? Sure.

[thedane]

Aug 6, 2021 21:05:46 GMT -6 @lionissleeping said:

Aug 6, 2021 20:55:27 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

Dead? Not as long as there's big money and big spending on the line. Investigations mean more bureaucrats, more spending, more bills. But Investigations of Investigations? Now you're whispering sweet nothings. Only thing better to their ears? Investigations of investigations of investigations.

What do you think these guys have in common? They were all once beauticians? hah! THEY'RE ALL LAWYERS.

If this State Senate Audit in Arizona (Maricopa County) falls flat, it's over unless somebody steps in to somehow stop it before they finish. Then one side will scream bloody murder and demand Investigations on why it was stopped.. You are correct there. Let them finish and produce some sort of report and lets be done with it. You do know the State Senate in PA is ordering up a Maricopa County type Audit in 3 counties in PA. Georgia is in the works for 3 counties and also WI. 

Georgia has audited the state how many times and Trump already paid to have the counties in Wisconsin audited, already been done with absolutely no fraud found. This is a Trump fuck fest.

[thedane]

If this were Dem's trying to audit Rep's they would threaten the auditors lives.

[rustyhilger]

Aug 7, 2021 10:23:17 GMT -6 thedane said:

If this were Dem's trying to audit Rep's they would threaten the auditors lives.

The dems are pretty sore losers, no question about that.

But the nastiest they ever get ... is to call you orange on late night TV. Maybe a nasty facebook post here and there. Rarely have they called for anyone's head, or stormed the capital with a rag-tag band of hipsters wearing viking helmets. And please don't cite the BLM "protests." Those weren't related to an election result, nor directed at any specific political party.

Dems are pretty tame all things considering. They like courts. Like suing people. Pubs like bombing. Dems like suing and being sued. They're lawyers. If you think any of this is causing the dems to lose sleep, remember, they're lawyers. You're in their habitat.

[liongeezer]

Aug 7, 2021 10:23:17 GMT -6 thedane said:

If this were Dem's trying to audit Rep's they would threaten the auditors lives.

No they wouldn't Dane.  The Tumpers would help them with the full forensic audit.

[rustyhilger]

Aug 7, 2021 11:56:22 GMT -6 liongeezer said:

Aug 7, 2021 10:23:17 GMT -6 thedane said:

If this were Dem's trying to audit Rep's they would threaten the auditors lives.

No they wouldn't Dane.  The Tumpers would help them with the full forensic audit.

Just like they did with the Mueller report. And the Steele Dossier.

[liongeezer]

Aug 7, 2021 10:33:32 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

Aug 7, 2021 10:23:17 GMT -6 thedane said:

If this were Dem's trying to audit Rep's they would threaten the auditors lives.

Rarely have they called for anyone's head, or stormed the capital with a rag-tag band of hipsters wearing viking helmets.

I have one question concerning the so-call insurrection that stormed the capitol.  Why won't the Capitol Police release all security video from Jan. 6?  This security video is public property and can be reviewed by anyone who asks for it, especially Defense Attorneys.  It is because the Capitol Police would be culpable for entrapment.  There is video showing the Capitol Police opening gates and inviting protestors in the Capitol, then barring the gates and doors.  The Police began attacking protestors with tear gas and billy clubs.  The video showing protestors pushing against the police were trying to get out of the Capitol, not in it.  This entire insurrection was staged to label Trump supporters as Domestic Terrorist.   Some 600 protestors have been arrested since Jan. 6 and have sat in jail for over 6 months without any charges being brought against them.  Their Civil rights have been denied to them.   Please tell me again how nice the Dems are!!!

[liongeezer]

Aug 7, 2021 12:01:07 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

Aug 7, 2021 11:56:22 GMT -6 liongeezer said:

No they wouldn't Dane.  The Tumpers would help them with the full forensic audit.

Just like they did with the Mueller report. And the Steele Dossier.

We already know that Russian collusion story was all Bullshit.  Project Veritas exposed Russian Collusion story by placing a beautiful mole within CNN.  She recorded one of the Director at CNN admitting that they got rid of Trump with the Russian propaganda story.  He also admitted to making up the pedophile story about Florida Rep Matt Gaetz.  Needless to say, CNN and the rest of the Fake News don't talk about Matt Gaetz anymore.  Project Veritas has successfully sued the New York Times for millions and is considering a lawsuit against CNN for their lies and propaganda.  So your above example is a poor one Rusty.  No one will agree with a total lie.  Wait I take that back some people would, especially the dumb ones. 

[stuckincheeseland]

Aug 7, 2021 12:49:03 GMT -6 liongeezer said:

Aug 7, 2021 12:01:07 GMT -6 rustyhilger said:

Just like they did with the Mueller report. And the Steele Dossier.

We already know that Russian collusion story was all Bullshit.  Project Veritas exposed Russian Collusion story by placing a beautiful mole within CNN.  She recorded one of the Director at CNN admitting that they got rid of Trump with the Russian propaganda story.  He also admitted to making up the pedophile story about Florida Rep Matt Gaetz.  Needless to say, CNN and the rest of the Fake News don't talk about Matt Gaetz anymore.  Project Veritas has successfully sued the New York Times for millions and is considering a lawsuit against CNN for their lies and propaganda.  So your above example is a poor one Rusty.  No one will agree with a total lie.  Wait I take that back some people would, especially the dumb ones. 

a whole lot of people went to prison for what you call BS, but please explain the 140 contacts between the Trump campiagn and the russian agents who attacked our election