Post by bigdogchris on Dec 3, 2019 23:07:11 GMT -6
There was a reason he was traded. Just wait. Remember how most people (especially on the radio) were talking about how the Lions made a mistake trading Ebron since he was putting up good numbers last year? Look at this year, he's been worse than he was in Detroit.
It is pretty amazing how lucky all of his INTs have been. But analysts won't talk about that.
Yeah, Twitter was pretty obnoxious considering Woods stopped running his route and Goff arm-punted one. He’s there to make the plays which matters, but acting like he’s Ed Reed is a little over the top.
The reaction from his former teammates is pretty telling though. Clearly a really well respected guy and goes to the question Glover Quin brought up last week. Will these guys fight for Patricia?
Seems like the wheels came off as soon as he was traded. I'm not saying he was the difference maker as much as psychologically this may have really affected the team negatively.
He is gone along with the competitiveness of this football team. First few games were fun, have to admit I haven't watched much last few weeks as I normally would. I didnt watch any of the Vikes game. What's the point.
He is gone along with the competitiveness of this football team. First few games were fun, have to admit I haven't watched much last few weeks as I normally would. I didnt watch any of the Vikes game. What's the point.
He is gone along with the competitiveness of this football team. First few games were fun, have to admit I haven't watched much last few weeks as I normally would. I didnt watch any of the Vikes game. What's the point.
So it was all Qundre Diggs???
Seems like the wheels came off as soon as he was traded. I'm not saying he was the difference maker as much as psychologically this may have really affected the team negatively.
Post by badnews3123 on Dec 11, 2019 8:12:59 GMT -6
Defensively the wheels were already starting to come off before the trade. Diggs was also playing hurt.
He’s a good player, I get their line of thinking with the trade. But, I don’t think they got good value back to make that move in season. And I think they underestimated the impact of trading a captain and guy that is as well liked as Diggs, especially in the middle of the season.
He’s a good player, I get their line of thinking with the trade. But, I don’t think they got good value back to make that move in season. And I think they underestimated the impact of trading a captain and guy that is as well liked as Diggs, especially in the middle of the season.
I agree. And you have to think they would have gotten at least that value in the offseason, and without the locker room blowback. Probably a case of Quinn and/or Patricia letting their emotions get the better of them.
I suppose if you were playing devil's advocate, you could say that had Diggs stayed on, his contrarian attitude against the coaching staff could have made things even worse. Although I don't know how they could have been any worse.
Seems like the wheels came off as soon as he was traded. I'm not saying he was the difference maker as much as psychologically this may have really affected the team negatively.
They still won a game after Diggs was traded. The wheels really came off when Stafford was injured.
The wheels came off of the defense in week 1 when they blew that lead to a rookie QB starting his first game. Even when they were 2-0-1 they didn't deserve to be and I said at the time they were frauds.
He’s a good player, I get their line of thinking with the trade. But, I don’t think they got good value back to make that move in season. And I think they underestimated the impact of trading a captain and guy that is as well liked as Diggs, especially in the middle of the season.
I agree. And you have to think they would have gotten at least that value in the offseason, and without the locker room blowback. Probably a case of Quinn and/or Patricia letting their emotions get the better of them.
I suppose if you were playing devil's advocate, you could soay that had Diggs stayed on, his contrarian attitude against the coaching staff could have made things even worse. Although I don't know how they could have been any worse.
Even playing devils advocate, we don’t even know that to be true. It’s really just been speculation that he may not have been a guy that completely bought in to what was being sold. There’s been no real info about it.
I agree. And you have to think they would have gotten at least that value in the offseason, and without the locker room blowback. Probably a case of Quinn and/or Patricia letting their emotions get the better of them.
I suppose if you were playing devil's advocate, you could soay that had Diggs stayed on, his contrarian attitude against the coaching staff could have made things even worse. Although I don't know how they could have been any worse.
Even playing devils advocate, we don’t even know that to be true. It’s really just been speculation that he may not have been a guy that completely bought in to what was being sold. There’s been no real info about it.
The D did some good things through the first 4 weeks. Problem is once teams started countering it, they just kept on doing it. The wheels started to come off the D in the Minnesota game. They put out the blueprint with the play-action, crossers and over routes.
The Quandre Diggs trade is officially a disaster for the Detroit Lions
By Jeremy Reisman@DetroitOnLion Dec 9, 2019, 8:00am EST S I really try not to be that guy.
I really don’t want to be the guy that overreacts to a trade or roster move in the immediate when there are a lot of long-term variables at play. People who do that tend to jump to conclusions based on small sample sizes and swells of emotion over facts. People who do that end up on Old Takes Exposed.
But after just under seven weeks, I’m declaring it. The Quandre Diggs trade is an embarrassment, a disaster, a theft, a bamboozle, and a major strike against not only general manager Bob Quinn, but the entire Lions coaching staff.
First, let’s get some things out of the way. I’m not here pretending Quandre Diggs is suddenly an All-Pro safety. We all tend to overreact to interceptions, and the fact that Diggs notched two picks against the Rams on “Sunday Night Football”—including a pick-six—is not necessarily representative of his overall level of play with the Seattle Seahawks.
A few of his interceptions look to be of the right-place-at-the-right-time variety, not necessarily great breaks on the ball or amazing instinctive plays. His ability to make plays, too, is almost certainly aided by a front seven that can actually generate pressure.
And I’m not even going to make the argument about how trading a defensive captain affected the Lions’ locker room. Darius Slay was obviously very emotional about it, but there have been no signs that Detroit’s young secondary—or anyone else on the team—has given up on this coaching staff or front office.
But the Lions currently find themselves desperate for playmakers on the defensive side of the ball while the Seahawks are benefitting from the addition of one. Since the Quandre Diggs trade, the Lions have two interceptions. Diggs, himself, has three since the trade... and he’s only played in four games. His PFF grade in certainly improved in his four games in Seattle, while Detroit is making every quarterback look like Hall of Famers in Diggs’ absence.
Quandre Diggs has talent. He’s not even 27 years old yet, and he’s making plays at a rapid pace in Seattle. Just look at the kind of things people in Seattle are saying about him. He’s already drawn comparisons to Earl Thomas, he’s improving the players around him. Hell, one analyst even called the acquisition of Diggs as the single reason the Seahawks are contenders. While that last one is certainly some hyperbole, here’s what Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll is saying about him.
“I’ve always just kept track of (Diggs) because I thought he was a rare player in what he was willing to try to do,” Carroll said. “Some guys play by the book and they’re really conservative. He’s not.”
The Lions gave that up to move up 40-some spots in the final day of the draft.
Detroit has still not offered an adequate reason for why they traded Diggs. In his post-trade press conference, head coach Matt Patricia glossed over Diggs’ contributions both as a leader and a playmaker, and decided, instead, to spew coach-speak to rationalize the trade.
“There are certainly things that we try to do to help the team get better in the long run for us, and certainly in a situation where we think moving forward hopefully, we have some players that can still help us, even if we do make a move like we did,” Patricia said back in October.
Lions general manager Bob Quinn has remained silent, and we probably won’t get an explanation until his season-ending press conference in the new year.
The growing feeling is that Diggs and the Lions staff were at odds. The signs are everywhere, if you’re looking for them. Diggs thanked everyone in Detroit during his exit—except for the coaches and management. Diggs told the media his trade was likely a move to control the locker room. His brother, Quentin Jammer, tweeted this right after the trade, and Diggs seemed to endorse it:
Nino ✔ @qdiggs6 🗣 …
Quentin Jammer @jam_I_AM_23 Weak minded ppl don’t do well with ppl with an opinion and a strong will.
311 7:11 PM - Oct 22, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy 45 people are talking about this If you’re trying to protect your young, impressionable secondary room, and Diggs is a threatening disturbance, trading him would make sense. But how did we get to this point where Diggs was such a bad influence? Just weeks prior, his teammates thought he was such a positive influence that he deserved to wear the title of captain. Over his previous four years with the Lions, Diggs had built a reputation as a hard worker who played with a chip on his shoulder and an instinctive football mind. Suddenly, he turned into a diva on the levels of Odell Beckham Jr. or Josh Norman?
I’m not buying it. Instead, this reflects poorly on the coaching staff. It’s their job to get the best out of their players—both as leaders and as players. If Diggs, who for the first four years of his career was nothing but a perfect example of a team player and a blossoming playmaker, suddenly was on the decline, that is fully on the coaching staff, and the Seahawks are making that clearer as every Sunday passes.
Post by goldenlions on Dec 13, 2019 0:11:30 GMT -6
That's why I have always contended that Patricia and Diggs had some sort of altercation and they just shipped him out for what they could. It is really the only rationale reason to make that trade.
The Quandre Diggs trade is officially a disaster for the Detroit Lions
By Jeremy Reisman@DetroitOnLion Dec 9, 2019, 8:00am EST S I really try not to be that guy.
I really don’t want to be the guy that overreacts to a trade or roster move in the immediate when there are a lot of long-term variables at play. People who do that tend to jump to conclusions based on small sample sizes and swells of emotion over facts. People who do that end up on Old Takes Exposed.
But after just under seven weeks, I’m declaring it. The Quandre Diggs trade is an embarrassment, a disaster, a theft, a bamboozle, and a major strike against not only general manager Bob Quinn, but the entire Lions coaching staff.
First, let’s get some things out of the way. I’m not here pretending Quandre Diggs is suddenly an All-Pro safety. We all tend to overreact to interceptions, and the fact that Diggs notched two picks against the Rams on “Sunday Night Football”—including a pick-six—is not necessarily representative of his overall level of play with the Seattle Seahawks.
A few of his interceptions look to be of the right-place-at-the-right-time variety, not necessarily great breaks on the ball or amazing instinctive plays. His ability to make plays, too, is almost certainly aided by a front seven that can actually generate pressure.
And I’m not even going to make the argument about how trading a defensive captain affected the Lions’ locker room. Darius Slay was obviously very emotional about it, but there have been no signs that Detroit’s young secondary—or anyone else on the team—has given up on this coaching staff or front office.
But the Lions currently find themselves desperate for playmakers on the defensive side of the ball while the Seahawks are benefitting from the addition of one. Since the Quandre Diggs trade, the Lions have two interceptions. Diggs, himself, has three since the trade... and he’s only played in four games. His PFF grade in certainly improved in his four games in Seattle, while Detroit is making every quarterback look like Hall of Famers in Diggs’ absence.
Quandre Diggs has talent. He’s not even 27 years old yet, and he’s making plays at a rapid pace in Seattle. Just look at the kind of things people in Seattle are saying about him. He’s already drawn comparisons to Earl Thomas, he’s improving the players around him. Hell, one analyst even called the acquisition of Diggs as the single reason the Seahawks are contenders. While that last one is certainly some hyperbole, here’s what Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll is saying about him.
“I’ve always just kept track of (Diggs) because I thought he was a rare player in what he was willing to try to do,” Carroll said. “Some guys play by the book and they’re really conservative. He’s not.”
The Lions gave that up to move up 40-some spots in the final day of the draft.
Detroit has still not offered an adequate reason for why they traded Diggs. In his post-trade press conference, head coach Matt Patricia glossed over Diggs’ contributions both as a leader and a playmaker, and decided, instead, to spew coach-speak to rationalize the trade.
“There are certainly things that we try to do to help the team get better in the long run for us, and certainly in a situation where we think moving forward hopefully, we have some players that can still help us, even if we do make a move like we did,” Patricia said back in October.
Lions general manager Bob Quinn has remained silent, and we probably won’t get an explanation until his season-ending press conference in the new year.
The growing feeling is that Diggs and the Lions staff were at odds. The signs are everywhere, if you’re looking for them. Diggs thanked everyone in Detroit during his exit—except for the coaches and management. Diggs told the media his trade was likely a move to control the locker room. His brother, Quentin Jammer, tweeted this right after the trade, and Diggs seemed to endorse it:
Nino ✔ @qdiggs6 🗣 …
Quentin Jammer @jam_I_AM_23 Weak minded ppl don’t do well with ppl with an opinion and a strong will.
311 7:11 PM - Oct 22, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy 45 people are talking about this If you’re trying to protect your young, impressionable secondary room, and Diggs is a threatening disturbance, trading him would make sense. But how did we get to this point where Diggs was such a bad influence? Just weeks prior, his teammates thought he was such a positive influence that he deserved to wear the title of captain. Over his previous four years with the Lions, Diggs had built a reputation as a hard worker who played with a chip on his shoulder and an instinctive football mind. Suddenly, he turned into a diva on the levels of Odell Beckham Jr. or Josh Norman?
I’m not buying it. Instead, this reflects poorly on the coaching staff. It’s their job to get the best out of their players—both as leaders and as players. If Diggs, who for the first four years of his career was nothing but a perfect example of a team player and a blossoming playmaker, suddenly was on the decline, that is fully on the coaching staff, and the Seahawks are making that clearer as every Sunday passes.
So what you're saying is Quentin Jammer is not verified on Twitter?